sometimes i think it'd be fun to poke a placenta with a stick. it seems like it would be a bit leaky and squishy and strangely supple.... like a pair of stockings filled with pudding and cubes of jello.
me: http://momslittlegarden.com/TeigenJacob/Birth.html <-- i think i just vomited a little in my mouth
lowfuellight: my god
lowfuellight: i was cool till u see the blood filled tub
lowfuellight: and the blood dripping down her leg
fuzz decay: lmao
fuzz decay: exactly
lowfuellight: some ppl...
lowfuellight: that kid's gonna see this shit when he grows up
lowfuellight: and he's gonna kill himself
me: lmao seriously
lowfuellight: god...doesn't that just make u wanna go have a baby RIGHT NOW?!
me: i'm childfree
me: thank fucking god i'm childfree
me: seeing a vagina stretch like that is freaky
lowfuellight: it's beyond freaky
lowfuellight: w/e the fuck is beyond freaky
me: can't you just not wait to have to massage your gf's back as she shits out your child?
me: and you have to watch placenta and blood clots pour out of her no no spot
me: where you sometimes put your *mouth*
lowfuellight: well...when it comes time for her to shit out our baby from her no no zone
lowfuellight: i'll be there
lowfuellight: and i'll be crying
lowfuellight: not cause my baby's born
lowfuellight: but cause i know it will never quite be the same down there
me: when they stich her back up
me: she gets *tighter*
me: or so i'm told
lowfuellight: traffic lights...
lowfuellight: how do they work?
lowfuellight: *freak attempt to change subject*
You know, I was reading this... looking at the site... all while Mr. Stephy slept.
I am thinking of pulling a Lorena Bobbitt on him just to make sure there are absolutely no accidents that would lead up to my naughty bits being put in such a very nasty position.
Okay, as well all know, I've GIVEN BIRTH and that's still one of the creepiest things I've ever seen.
I'm all for home births, I'm all for water births, but there's something really trailer trash to me about combining the two.
I've seen a ton of water births and they were NOT that bloody. (Same with normal hospital births for that matter.)
i always thought that if i were to give birth, it would be in water. mostly just because i'm all about water. and i've heard that they're less traumatic for the baby and cleaner and all that.
and you know, it's cool that she's giving birth in her own way, but jesus christ, why would *anyone* want to post pictures of that on the internet? and who was taking those pictures? was it a midwife or something? because shouldn't the midwife have helped when the baby wasn't breathing? what i'm guessing is that it was one of her kids, and that just seems all sorts of wrong to me. i would be weird about a doctor seeing my vagina in that condition, let alone my family and the entire world.
"Hey little kid, you were born in a plastic inflatable pool! YAY!"
I've seen stuff on TV where they have birthing tubs at water birth centers and the babies always seem so happy when they come out. Having an at-home birth in a friggin kiddie pool just seems extremely dangerous.
yeah, there really should have been SOMEONE there that at least knew a little more than the people doing the birthing.
a midwife, or something?!
When the baby comes out and isn't breathing, that's a big fucking problem. I am surprised that they didn't get in trouble.
They mention something about reviewing the video (I guess their OTHER kid was holding a video camera) and that the baby should have been moved head down from the pool instead of head up.
I don't know much about water births but if they were doing it unassisted, I would put the whole "wellbeing of the child" a little bit higher on the list than "getting a good picture of the kid's head as he's coming out". I know for a fact that you *can* rotate a baby in the birth canal, I've seen it done on the Discovery Channel, and honestly, if she realized the baby was coming out that way, she could have gone on her back. Though perhaps, they were caught up in the moment.. I don't know. Still, a midwife is a damn good idea for those who don't want to visit a hospital.
Looking back on that page yet again, I see this:
"We are talking that we will start trying again in Jan '03.. and I can't imagine we'll do things much differently than we did this time around.. at least as far as homebirth goes. We completely enjoyed laboring at home, the freedom we felt, and the bonding." She also mentions something about her mom being there. *sigh* People used to do it unassisted all the time, but they at least had a midwife or someone who halfway knew about what they were doing by actually doing it, not just reading about it.
I agree that they probably knew something (probably a lot even) about water births..They really needed a trained professional there. My cousin is a doula, and even someone like that could have assisted. There is only so far a little book smarts and internet reading will get you before you need to get professional training. I think this couple was so worried about doing something out of societal norms that they did endanger the child.
i read the page about her stillborn baby and for that one they had a midwife to consult because they were going to homebirth her. the stillborn's page is completely another can of worms, though.
i can't imagine having a baby die on me like that and then not taking every precaution so my next baby wouldn't die.
i think they should have gotten in trouble, for at least child endangerment. i realize that people give birth all the time without the help of midwives or doctors when they can't make it to the hospital and stuff, but to intentionally have a baby in a pool of water, with neither person involved knowing what they're doing is completely irresponsible.