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ATLANTA (AP) -- A controversial evolution disclaimer in suburban Cobb County science textbooks will face a court challenge tomorrow. The disclaimer warns students that evolution is --quote-- "a theory, NOT a fact."

yes dumbasses, that's why it's called the theory of evolution.

i maintain my position that cobb county is full of illegal immigrants and white trash (except for like, 3 people), and should probably have the fuck bombed out of it before they start thinking that the big chicken is the new messiah.
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On November 11th, 2004 01:36 pm (UTC), fuzzdecay replied:
i'm truly saddened to have to say that i've gotten most of my education in georgian schools.

when i say "gotten my education in georgian schools" i mean "i watched the discovery channel nonstop for 3 years and didn't learn a god damned thing in school until i got into college"
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On November 11th, 2004 01:48 pm (UTC), themanipulator commented:
HAHA! Sounds like my hometown!
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On November 11th, 2004 04:22 pm (UTC), fuzzdecay replied:
it's quite sad.
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On November 11th, 2004 02:54 pm (UTC), frickhwa commented:
cobb didn't used to be like that. it got overrun since i moved from there.
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On November 11th, 2004 04:45 pm (UTC), bappy_lorenzo commented:
Ok, here's what irriatates me:

Even the simplest life form has a complex structure. (Cell structures, skeletons, exoskeletons, blood, crap etc.) A lot of thought went into making stuff here on earth, provided you believe SOME ONE or SOME THING made us. If one is to go the route of the big G, you'd think they would give him a little credit. I mean, look at ladybugs.

Do these people actually believe that God said "SHAZAM! Llamma!" and there they were? How is evolving from apes more offensive than being made from clay or dirt or whatever it says in the bible?

To me, it seems like these people and their anti-evolution attitude is going against their own religion.

Hi, i'm here to preach to the choir, where do I set up?


"WTF? They cut my part out!"
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On November 11th, 2004 08:10 pm (UTC), fuzzdecay replied:
i always wondered how being made from dirt was better than being evolved from monkeys.
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On November 11th, 2004 04:59 pm (UTC), s0ur_times commented:
not on the side I live on o.O West cobb is like that, east cobb is where the people who actually want evolution to be taken out of textbooks lived and they're just all bush-cheney bazillionaire snobs.
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On November 11th, 2004 07:00 pm (UTC), fuzzdecay replied:
yeah, when i think of cobb county, i always think of marietta and smyrna because that's where shawn's mom lives.

i count east cobb as the long lost sister of the good part of sandy springs and dunwoody (partly because i'm constantly going to lower roswell road for something.)
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On November 12th, 2004 07:05 am (UTC), neo_prodigy commented:
we discussed that article in critical thinking class the other day. cobb county, the one county that even makes tennessee look good.
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On November 12th, 2004 08:00 am (UTC), icklepenguin commented:
Having a bash at evolution is irritating, but providing you have a rational argument, I feel it's perfectly acceptable. What REALLY FUCKS ME OFF is that they don't even want to teach that it's there. That's not teaching. If you tell the kids about evolution and they reject it, fine, but they're probably going to struggle with recent biological advancements if they do so.

We were told at the start of this course that they basically couldn't give two flying fucks what your religious beliefs are; there's an evolution and systematics module in the second year and you WILL have to pass it to get your degree, likewise dissection is integral to the course. If you feel particularly inclined towards fluffybunnyism, then don't take the animal biology module in the second year.

My argument is this. Evolution is a model. Yes, it could be utterly wrong, but it's a model that adequate explains the evidence presented to us and can be used for further hypotheses, thus leading to the advancement of science. Do you really think it'd be productive if someone came up with a hypothesis and the only argument against them was "nerrrr, but God put your evidence there as a test"? No, hardly. Religion and Science are incompatible, which is why you have two subjects, namely Religion and Science. You wanna talk about theology and morals and so on, you teach it in Religion. You wanna talk about science stuff, you teach it in Science. Very rarely should you blur those lines.

Bloody right-wing fundamentalists.
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On November 12th, 2004 08:27 am (UTC), fuzzdecay replied:
my school didn't teach evolution at all. my 6th grade science teacher straight out said "i believe that god put us here on the earth, and that's how it happened" and that was our class on the origins of life.

we touched on evolution in my honors biology class, but that's about it.



...i don't see how people can believe that their belief system is fact. like, scientific theory at least is based on tangible evidence, religion is just based on some old book. the people that wrote that book were poor middle easterners that were stranded out in the desert. i mean honestly, are you going to trust a well fed, civilized, educated person... or some starving and dehydrated man that lived when people were being bled for diseases and shit?
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On November 12th, 2004 08:44 am (UTC), icklepenguin replied:
I read a VERY good point made on some website. Technically they're committing a sin by not teaching it; Pride. They feel their ideas on evolution are utterly infallible and nothing could possibly change their minds, "An excessively high opinion of oneself". Scientists can be particularly stubborn when it comes to controversy, but in the end they WILL accept a theory if there's sufficient evidence and argument to support it.

Your quote from your teacher illustrates the point perfectly, I BELIEVE. Science is not belief. Religion is. A point I really ought to've pointed out is that evolution can and has been observed (look into microevolution) and is widely accepted as fact, unlike in the article you pointed out. Hell, my college mum is a pretty hardcore christian, but she accepts evolution no problem. Why? She doesn't take the bible literally and as being the word of God. It. Was. Not. Written. By. God. Thus, by even their reasoning, it is fallible and probably incorrect. Where Science starts to utterly fall apart is the creation of the precursors of the building blocks for life, i.e. the formation of the Universe. Formed from a Big Bang? Sure, but what was before then and what caused it in the first place? That's where I feel you can safely invoke a deity.
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On November 12th, 2004 08:10 am (UTC), icklepenguin commented:
Anyway, Google says:

"theory of evolution is correct"; about 1,840,000 hits
"theory of evolution is incorrect"; about 333,000 hits

Who do you trust?
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On November 12th, 2004 09:01 am (UTC), ruthebee commented:
"...before they start thinking that the big chicken is the new messiah."

All hail the juicy and extra crispy.
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